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City Council Votes to Beat Swords Into Plowshares

R.O.T.C. Funding Reallocated to Organic Gardens for Youth

NEW YORK — The New York City Council is scheduled to vote later this week on a measure that may finally close the doors on the City’s Junior Reserve Officer Training Corps, following complaints by parents and teachers, and a recent spate of student walkouts.

Critics contend that the training corps, whose official mandate is educational, is a recruiting arm of the U.S. Army. They note that the J.R.O.T.C. provides no non-military training, and that the firearm training offered by 90 percent of the J.R.O.T.C. programs undermines the no-weapons policies widely promoted on high school campuses.

At Jesuit-run Xavier High School in Manhattan, 33 percent of students belong to the J.R.O.T.C. “It’s the only gang the Fathers let us join,” bubbled Senior Cadet Leader Bernard Goetz Jr. “But it’s plenty good for me.”

Not all the Jesuits support the program. Father Jon Sobrino, who supervises the school’s ethics curriculum, said that the J.R.O.T.C. obedience training seemed to stunt some students’ reasoning skills. “‘Lock-and-load’ is not a recognized ethical philosophy,” Sobrino said.

With the end of the war in Iraq, concerns voiced for months at Parent Teacher Association meetings around the five boroughs received renewed urgency. “We are asking Secretary of Defense Scott Ritter to shift these funds into training programs in nonviolence and communication,” Queens Borough P.T.A. head Estelle Chavez said. “If our leaders of the past eight years had had that sort of training, we wouldn’t be in the huge mess we’re in.”

Retired General David Petraeus defended the program. The only way a volunteer army can recruit is if we can get them early. The fact is, it works. Plus, J.R.O.T.C. students who don’t join the army tell us the leadership training they receive helps them find work in security and related fields.”

Critics argue that those students who do go on to join the Army fare especially poorly. According to the Veterans Administration, veterans earn less than non-veterans; one-third of homeless men are veterans; and at least 10 percent of federal and state prisoners are veterans.

The City Council vote follows outrage by area principals over Mayor Bloomberg’s proposal to cut $180 million from the Department of Education’s budget in the current fiscal year, and $324 million in the following year, cuts which will most likely effect after school programs, arts programming, and programs for children with special needs.

One group of critics has been working with Schools Chancellor Joel I. Klein to redirect the $2 million J.R.O.T.C. budget to Urban Green, an after-school program that promotes environmental leadership for youth by creating organic gardens in vacant lots. Klein’s office issued a memo yesterday acknowledging the effort. “Our office feels that the J.R.O.T.C. budget might best be redirected to what we might call Victory Gardens, in celebration of a new direction for our country and for our nation’s youth.”

7 Comments so far ...

The council should vote to cancel J.R.O.T.C.! This is the best idea I’ve heard since the war ended.

Comment on November 12, 2008 07:10 pm
2. Fat Cat

Um, I kind of liked swords.

Comment on November 13, 2008 04:53 pm
3. Bubba

Yo, I think gardens are a great idea. Ever since the President tore up the rose garden and put in a watermelon patch they have been chowing down during the summers in the White House.

Comment on November 13, 2008 10:16 pm
4. Goetz R. from Germany

Swords Into Plowshares - in 1983, former GDR, known as East Germany, we called it: “Schwerter zu Pflugscharen”. This symbol lead us into the october of 1989.

Comment on November 14, 2008 01:47 pm
5. donkey kong

i wish to throw barrels at jrotc!!

Comment on November 18, 2008 08:29 pm
6. Edwin Maldonado

This is the first time in my life that I have seen so much negative talk about a J.R.O.T.C, program. I live in Florida and two of my sons are in the program one is in a Marine ROTC and my other son is in a Navy ROTC program and they love it. They are both in high school and they are both in either AP Or Honors courses. They already have scholarships set up that came there way because of there involvement in there school activities and community activity. There J.R.O.T.C leaders promote and help them achieve these goals. This coming from a community really has caught me of guard, I wonder if this is coming from affluent families that do not want there children to maybe consider a military lifestyle.

Comment on February 22, 2010 06:58 pm
7. Edward Burchianti

I am a graduate (1960’s) of Xavier HS. At that time all were required (as part of accepting admission) to be part of the JrROTC. Two points should be noted….participation in the program (now optional) did NOT commit one to a military career. In fact I would guess that many,if not most, of my fellow graduates did not even join ROTC in college. The second point I wish to make is that the training we received taught us to be disciplined human beings. That was when we were freshmen and sophmores (with NO hazing). In junior and senior year we then were the trainers and learned how to teach, train, and lead our “men”. We learned that example was far more effective than command. The implication in the article that the cadets are nothing but mindless lemmings is utterly outrageous.

The article states that veterans earn less than others statistically. Well, I think if one looked at the achievements and successes of our graduates (and I would guess most of those who had the JrROTC experience) in the fields of law, medicine, business, education and, yes religion one would laugh at the author’s insertion of that irrelivant statistics (remember G.B. Shaw…”lies..lies..etc”)

With regard to Fr. Sobrino’s statement. “‘Lock-and-load’ is not a recognized ethical philosophy,” Sobrino said. That is nothing but a trite truism that doesn’t apply to the students he supposedly teaches. I remind Fr. Sobrino that the JrROTC program engenders in the participants a leader’s concern for his troopers and his responsibilities. Rather than spouting platitudes, maybe Fr. Sobrino should spend more time teaching those under his care how to navigate the problem of power and ethics and responsibility. I would also remind the good Father that the Founder of his order, St. Ignatius Loyola, was at one time a military commander and he seemed to be a good religious leader. I’m sure many of the skills he learned as a mlitary leader he brought to his organization of the Jesuits.
As far as the concerns of the City Council I wish they would fix up the mess they have in their public school system instead of attacking a program which has a PROVEN record of creating responsible leaders in our society generation after generation.
I still have my sabre from Xavier (yes we had to purchase them…they weren’t Army issue) and after reading this article I am definitely going to insure it is a named bequest go my child with the reminder that freedom requires some displine and sacrifice.
EJB
Williamsburg, VA

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